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Autor Tema: Meč za Prvaka svijeta: Magnus Carlsen - Sergey Karjakin, 11. – 30. 11. 2016.  (Posjeta: 18531 puta)
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« Odgovor #30 na: 22-11-2016, 02:03:29 »
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Ajme koja koma! Trebao je biti remi, IMHO i prema mišljenju mojeg bedastog Houdini 1.5a.  Grin Carslenovo guranje f-pješaka f4-f5 je bil oslabije, sigurniji remi bio je blokirati pješake kraljevog krila s e4-e5 i ima remi vječnim šahom, ako crni gura a pješaka i onda ode damom pomoći pješaku.

62. h4?? je grupi previd, jer dobiva mat. Ali potez ranije to se moglo igrati, jer nakon 51. h4 (umjesto De6) h5 52. Da8 Sg4+ 53. Kh3 Dg1 54. Db7+ ima vječni šah.

44. Dc6 je bilo slabije, ili bar rizičnije, jer je jednostavni remi sa 44. Dg6+ i na Khh 45. e5   dama se može povući na b1 gdje blokira pješake, a opet uskočiti na g6 ako crna dama ode na damino krilo u podršku pješacima.

Ali i nakon toga je trebao biti remi. Slabiji je potez 47. e7 - trebalo je igrati 47. Db5 i na S×e6 ide 48. Db3 ili Db4.

Onda Houdini junior navodi kao najbolje 49. Lf1.

Tipična ljudska greška - umor, pad koncentracije. Zato najbolji programi danas imaju elo rating +400 u odnosu na najbolje ljude.  Sad
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« Odgovor #31 na: 22-11-2016, 08:30:11 »
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Carlsenu poraz u ovoj partiji nije najbolje sjeo ...

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« Odgovor #32 na: 22-11-2016, 10:50:36 »
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smatram da su svi problemi MC-a poceli 24. potezom, kada je na c4 uzeto pjesakom a ne lovcem ili cak topom. Takvo slabljenje pjesacke strukture u poziciji u kojoj nema jasnu kompenzaciju na ovaj trajni defekt daminog krila ne moze se smatrati dobrim, ma sto kompjuteri analizirali nakon toga.
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« Odgovor #33 na: 22-11-2016, 12:48:53 »
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Nakamura je ovih dana dao precjenjujuću izjavu o današnjim vrhunskim velemajstorima naspram Fischera. Odgovor se nije dugo čekao. GM Adrian Mihalcisin: " I think Fischer would win handycap with top ten "!
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« Odgovor #34 na: 22-11-2016, 14:16:19 »
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Jery očito ima jače nerve od pospanog Toma hehe
Slažem se s tobom,uzbudljiva partija,interesantno mi je bilo pratiti Svidlera i Gustafsona na chess24 i Žužu Polgar na njenom tviteru tokom partije,kad se nisu mogli izjasniti,da li je Magi genije ilii pak blefira.Nakon De1 i Lf1 Žuža je priznala da nema pojma što prvak ima u planu,a ista je slika bila i na chess24..
Jedino se mogu složiti sa Polgericom,da nakon toliko propusta Magnus nije zaslužio remi.Ostaju mu još četiri partije da poravna scor,ali mi se čini ,da če uz ovakvu igru Jerrya to biti prilično teško ,ako ne i nemoguče.Karjakin če verovatno još više težiti igri bez rizika,što za nas posmatrače i nije najuzbudljivije,na kraju igra se za prvaka sveta,šahovske oskare ionako ne podjeljuju više od 2012, čini mi se...
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« Odgovor #35 na: 22-11-2016, 16:35:43 »
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Gregorij Serper, jedan članak još iz travnja, odmah nakon završetka turnika randidata, gdje je dobro prikazao dobre strane prvaka i izazivača.

Edit: zeznuo sam poveznicu ranije, naknadno ispravljeno!

Opća procjena šansi:

»I hope you see now that you shouldn't get brainwashed by some outrageous odds that you can find on the Internet (up to 3:1 in Carlsen's favor). I think the real odds should be closer to 55-45 in Carlsen's favor.«

O pozicijama koje pašu jednom i drugom:

»We already discussed in this article that in simple technical positions no one can come close to Carlsen. If Magnus manages to steer the match towards these kind of positions, then Karjakin has no chance. Of course Karjakin knows it very well and will try to get complicated, unbalanced positions that he plays quite well. «

Dakle, točno to se dogodilo u 8. partiji - komplicirana, nebalansirana pozicija. A stratešku Carslen, jer je kako gore spominjem mogao igrati jednostavnije (44. Dg6+), kad se našao u malo slabijoj poziciji zbog prijetnje crnog a-pješaka. I na kraju je napravio grubu grešku od iscrpljenosti - ono što je obično upravo njegovo jako oružje.

Serper spominje kladinice. Evo članka o šansama Carlsena i Karjakina za kladioce:

Članak objašnjava da je Carlsen veliki favorit, među inim jer je »practically faultless«. Za pobjedu Karjakina početni koeficijent je bio 3,65 a posljednji navedeni je 4,88. To je svakako bilo prije posljednje partije.
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« Odgovor #36 na: 22-11-2016, 20:30:49 »
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MC polako gubi i elo bodove,razlika do Caruane sad iznosi samo 16,2 boda,nastavi li se meč u ovom pravcu,četiri remija do kraja,razlika če pasti na oko 10 boda.Verovatno je Fabi jedan od prvih u redu,koji navijaju da se prvenstvo igra barem 16 partija  Grin
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« Odgovor #37 na: 23-11-2016, 00:32:33 »
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MC polako gubi i elo bodove,razlika do Caruane sad iznosi samo 16,2 boda,nastavi li se meč u ovom pravcu,četiri remija do kraja,razlika če pasti na oko 10 boda.Verovatno je Fabi jedan od prvih u redu,koji navijaju da se prvenstvo igra barem 16 partija  Grin

dip, mislim da su MC-u ELO-bodovi u ovom trenutku zadnja "rupa na svirali" - sve su šanse da ga sad puno više zanima kako iz ovoga izvući "živu glavu" (ako bude ikako moguće)...  shok
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« Odgovor #38 na: 23-11-2016, 12:57:35 »
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Evo, uspio sam nakon dva dana naći vremena i proanalizirat osmu partiju:

[Event "Carlsen - Karjakin World Championship"]
[Site "New York, NY USA"]
[Date "2016.11.21"]
[Round "8"]
[White "Magnus Carlsen"]
[Black "Sergey Karjakin"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "E14"]
[PlyCount "110"]
[EventDate "2016.11.11"]

1. d4 {After two e4 games, where he gained little against Berlin, and some
advantage with the Giuoco Piano, Carlsen returns to d4.} Nf6 2. Nf3 {No
Trompovsky today} d5 3. e3 {Avoiding the London System, the Torre or anything
similar and going for the Colle system.} (3. c4 dxc4 {c4 is much more common,
but it is a different theme. For instance, it allows the text move, entering
the queen's gambit accepted without early e4}) 3... e6 4. Bd3 c5 5. b3 {
[pgndiagram] Magnus is avoiding c3, and preparing to develop his bishop to b2.}
(5. c3 {Would enter the pure Colle}) 5... Be7 6. O-O O-O 7. Bb2 {[pgndiagram]
Both sides have free development and don't confront each other for the moment.
So, this is another typical Magnus opening. The goal is not so much to set
Black immediatey problems, but rather to simply get a game.} b6 {The players
have been following the game Nakamura - Gelfand, London Classic 2013 so far.
Gelfand chose to develop his knight first.} 8. dxc5 {But this is somewhat
unconventional and apparently a novelty, at least according to my database.} (
8. Nbd2 Nc6 9. c4 {[pgndiagram] Is much more common.} Bb7 10. dxc5 {This move
is a computer novelty.Apparently White has to open the long diagonal for the
bishop sooner or later.} bxc5 11. a3 Rb8 12. Re1 {[pgndiagram] And the
computer prefers White.}) 8... Bxc5 {This suprised me a bit. A second move by
the bishop. I am not certain why Karjakin avoided bxc5, maybe to avoid playing
with the hanging pawns.} (8... bxc5 9. c4 Bb7 10. Nbd2 Nc6 11. cxd5 exd5 {
[pgndiagram] But in my position the hanging pawns aren't weak in this
particular position.}) 9. Nbd2 Bb7 {[pgndiagram] Both sides have completed
their development.} 10. Qe2 (10. c4 $5 {Immediately was interesting.} dxc4 {
[pgndiagram] Relieving the tension is not the best for black.} (10... Nbd7) 11.
Nxc4 Nbd7 12. Rc1 {And despite the symmetry, White's pieces are standing
better.}) 10... Nbd7 (10... Nc6 {[pgndiagram] Was an additional possibility
here.} 11. c4 Re8 {Preparing for d4.} 12. Rfd1 d4 13. a3 dxe3 14. fxe3 Qc7 15.
b4 Be7 {[pgndiagram] And White retains a small plus}) 11. c4 $1 (11. e4 {Was
another idea} dxe4 12. Nxe4 Qe7 13. Rad1 {[pgndiagram] And White is hoping to
exploit his queenside pawn majority. But hope springs eternal..}) 11... dxc4 {
Again I am not certain if this was neccessary. Black reaches symmetry, but
White's pieces are slightly better places.} (11... Rc8 12. Rac1 Qe7 13. cxd5
Nxd5 14. Nc4 {[pgndiagram] However, after White exchanges, a similar position
is reached.}) 12. Nxc4 Qe7 13. a3 $5 {Trying to provoke a weakness.} (13. Rfd1
{[pgndiagram] Normal developing moves are too routine} Nd5 14. Rac1 Rac8 15.
Nd4 Rfd8 16. a3 Bxd4 $1 {[pgndiagram] A good counterintuitive move in the
position. Getting rid of the superfluous bishop and vacating the c5 square.})
13... a5 14. Nd4 {Aiming for the b5 square in the future.} (14. Rfd1 {
[pgndiagram] It was also possible to wait a bit.} Rac8 15. Rac1 Rfd8 16. Bb1
Bd5 17. Nd4 Ne4 18. Nb5 Qg5 {[pgndiagram] But again Black has the play on the
kingside}) 14... Rfd8 (14... e5 {Is the computer suggestion, although it is a
bit commital. It is also chasing the knight where he wants to go} 15. Nb5 e4
16. Bc2 Nd5 17. Rfd1 (17. Qg4 f5) 17... N7f6 {[pgndiagram] And black has
reasonable play here.}) 15. Rfd1 Rac8 (15... e5 {[pgndiagram] Is not so
effective.} 16. Nb5 e4 17. Bc2 Nd5 18. Qg4 {And now there is no f5, since
Black has moved the rook away. This is what it means "to get a game". These
complex positions are very hard to understand.}) 16. Rac1 (16. Nb5 $5 {
[pgndiagram] Commentators on chessgames, and my engine like this move. White
is consistent in his plan and puts his knight on b5} Nf8 {Now this maneovre is
met strongly} 17. b4 $1 {The point} axb4 18. axb4 Bxb4 19. Nxb6 Rc6 20. Nc4 {
[pgndiagram] And despite the symmetry, Black's pieces are somewhat scattered.})
16... Nf8 17. Qe1 {Somewhat artificial move, but anticipating the knight g6-h4
route with attack on g2. Therefore, White prepares Bf1 to defend the weak
point.} (17. b4 {Is now bad} axb4 18. axb4 Bxb4 19. Nxb6 Rxc1 {[pgndiagram]
The point. Now black can exchange the rooks, which gives him the time to play
e5-e4} 20. Rxc1 e5 {And suddenly White's pieces are being chased away.} 21. Nc2
Ba5 22. Na4 {[pgndiagram] And the most pobably outcome is draw.} (22. Nc4 $4 e4
)) 17... Ng6 18. Bf1 Ng4 {[pgndiagram] Suddenly Black's pieces are getting
really close to White's king} 19. Nb5 $6 {The first missjudgement. White
neglects his king's safety.} (19. h3 N4e5 20. Qc3 {[pgndiagram] And after this
not very natural move, the position should be equal}) 19... Bc6 $6 {Opting for
safety first, but Karjakin misses the chance to try for something more} (19...
Qg5 $1 {I am not sure if Karjakin even considered this} 20. h3 {White's best
reaction} N4e5 21. Nxe5 Nxe5 22. Rxd8+ Rxd8 23. Bxe5 Qxe5 24. b4 axb4 25. axb4
Bf8 {[pgndiagram] And in this approximate variation, White can forget about
winning forever}) 20. a4 Bd5 {[pgndiagram] Black won the b4 square at least} (
20... Bxb5 $2 21. axb5 {Would only benefit White}) 21. Bd4 {The tension in the
centre is growing, and Karjakin decides to release it.} Bxc4 $6 (21... Bxd4 {
[pgndiagram] Was a better exchange} 22. Rxd4 N6e5 23. h3 Bxc4 24. Bxc4 Nf6 {
[pgndiagram] With equality.}) 22. Rxc4 Bxd4 23. Rdxd4 $6 {I don't really
understand this move. Carlsen is trying to keep the position alive, but by
creating imbalances in his position he doesn't achieve much, but merely gives
Black some targets.} (23. Rcxd4 {Seems more natural} Rxd4 24. Rxd4 N6e5 25. Qd2
{[pgndiagram] And White is slightly better, but more importantly, there is
absolutely no way he can lose this position.}) 23... Rxc4 24. bxc4 $6 {
[pgndiagram] Naturally. Carlsen wasn't going to take with the rook. However,
this is objectively dubious, since White's pawns are quite weak now.} (24. Rxc4
N4e5 25. Rc2 h6 {[pgndiagram] Is dead equal}) 24... Nf6 25. Qd2 Rb8 26. g3 Ne5
27. Bg2 h6 {Making space for the king.} (27... Ned7 28. Na7 Qa3 29. Rxd7 Nxd7
30. Qxd7 {[pgndiagram] And here e3 is covered (see next variations), and
therefore two minor pieces are worth more than a rook.}) 28. f4 $5 {
[pgndiagram] Again being agressive, which doesn't spoil anything yet, though.}
Ned7 29. Na7 Qa3 $1 {This is a great move, and was allowed by White's 28th
move.} 30. Nc6 (30. Rxd7 {[pgndiagram]} Nxd7 31. Qxd7 Qxe3+ 32. Kf1 Qc1+ {
[pgndiagram] And Black has at least perpetual}) 30... Rf8 31. h3 {[pgndiagram]
Getting some "luft", and threatening Rxd7.} Nc5 {Now the a4 is a "gooner".
White has to demonstrate that he has sufficient play for it. Another
important point is that both players had around 6 minutes on the clock at this
point.} 32. Kh2 Nxa4 33. Rd8 $6 (33. e4 {[pgndiagram], Was a possibility.} Nc5
34. e5 Nh5 35. Qf2 g6 36. g4 Ng7 37. Qh4 {Apparently White has enough play
here.} Qe3 {[pgndiagram]} (37... Kh7 $6 {[pgndiagram] Would lose the f7 pawn,
which I wouldn't like as black here} 38. Qe7 Re8 (38... Kg8 $4 {Loses} 39. Rd8)
39. Qxf7) 38. Qxh6 Re8 {With apparent equality.}) 33... g6 34. Qd4 Kg7 $1 {
Calmly walking into a pin, correctly judging that White can't take advantage
of that} 35. c5 $2 {[pgndiagram] And this is going over the top} (35. Rd7 {Was
still sufficient to maintan the balance} Qc5 36. Ra7 Qxd4 37. exd4 Nc3 38. Ne5
{[pgndiagram] And Black is too tied to the defence of the f pawn to push his a
pawn.}) 35... Rxd8 $1 (35... bxc5 {To understand idea behing c5, let's take
with the pawn} 36. Qd6 $1 {[pgndiagram] And White will win} Rxd8 37. Nxd8 {The
f7 cannot be defended} Qxe3 38. Qe7 Nh5 39. Qxf7+ Kh8 40. Qxg6 {[pgndiagram]
And White wins.}) 36. Nxd8 Nxc5 {Now Black is two clear pawns up, and the task
is rather technical. However, in time scramble everything is possible.} 37. Qd6
Qd3 $4 {While I was watching this life, I immediately remembered the game six
of the last Carlsen - Anand match, where Magnus blundered heavily and got away
with it. I couldn't believe that the history is repeating itself again.} (37...
Qa4 {[pgndiagram] Since White's only threat is to attack the f7, Black's move
prevents it} 38. Qxb6 Ncd7 {And from this point on Black is a clear passed
pawn up.}) 38. Nxe6+ $3 {[pgndiagram] Magnus finds this great shot in time
trouble.} fxe6 {Obviously, taking with the knight would lose the queen.} 39.
Qe7+ Kg8 40. Qxf6 {[pgndiagram] The time trouble has ended, and the draw
should have been the result.} a4 41. e4 $1 {This interference move was
probably missed by Karjakin earlier in his calculations. Now g6 falls} Qd7 (
41... a3 42. Qxg6+ Kf8 {[pgndiagram]Would be a draw i guess. If magnus would
have settled for it. He also has the option of continuing} 43. f5 Qd7 (43... a2
$4 {[pgndiagram] Is too optimistic} 44. fxe6 Nxe6 45. Qf6+) 44. Qxh6+ Kg8 45.
Qg5+) 42. Qxg6+ Qg7 43. Qe8+ Qf8 44. Qc6 $6 {[pgndiagram] A risky and
unnecessary decision. Magnus, after weathering the storm, continues to play
for the win. With such a strong passed pawn for Black, and potentially a good
knight, it was rather unneccessary.} (44. Qg6+ {And let's get on with the
match and play the next game.}) 44... Qd8 {Karjakin plays almost flawlessly
from this point on. Eyeing the e7 is good decision} (44... Qb8 $6 {Would
require more creativity.} 45. f5 Kf8 (45... a3 {Is now bad} 46. fxe6 Kg7 47. e7
{[pgndiagram] And White will win})) 45. f5 a3 46. fxe6 Kg7 $1 {[pgndiagram]
Another good decision, removing the king from the potential Qa8 check.} (46...
a2 47. e7 Qxe7 48. Qa8+ Kg7 49. Qxa2 {Would eliminate the dangerous pawn and
let White make use of the Black's king weakened position}) 47. e7 $6 (47. Qb5
$1 {[pgndiagram] Is an amazing computer move. The point is that Qb2 comes with
check now.} Nxe6 48. Qb4 Qf8 49. Qxb6 {And if someone has to be careful, that
is certainly Black}) 47... Qxe7 48. Qxb6 Nd3 {[pgndiagram]The knight is going
to block the bishop on e5} 49. Qa5 $2 {I think this is the first critical
moment.} (49. h4 {Activating the bishop immediately, was the last chance} Ne5 (
49... a2 50. Qd4+) 50. Bh3 a2 51. Qb2) 49... Qc5 {Now Black installs the
knight on e5} 50. Qa6 Ne5 {The culminating point of the game and possible of
the entire match.} 51. Qe6 $4 {[pgndiagram]Played after the 5 minutes thought.
Carslen either missed or understimated Black's response.} (51. Qb7+ {Giving
this check is probably the only way to stay in the game.} Nf7 {The only way to
continue for more} (51... Kg6 52. Qa6+ Kh7 53. Qb7+) 52. Qa6 h5 53. h4 Ne5 {
[pgndiagram] And now Black's attack is not that fast compared to the game
continuation} 54. Qb7+ Kf6 55. Qa6+) 51... h5 $3 {[pgndiagram] Played also
rather quickly (after some 5 minutes). To my mind this is an amazing move.
Black simply mates White out of nowhere. With such a weakened king. Kudos to
Karjakin for finding this. This is the only way to finish the game immediately}
52. h4 (52. Qa6 {To understand why this is such a strong move, let's simply
move the White queen away} Qc3 {Threatening Qb2} 53. Qa7+ Kh6 54. Qa6+ Ng6 {
[pgndiagram] And White is lost, for instance.} 55. e5 (55. h4 Qb2) 55... h4 56.
gxh4 Qxe5+ 57. Kh1 Qa1+ 58. Kh2 a2 {[pgndiagram] And Black wins}) (52. Qa2 Qc1
53. Qe6 Qb2 54. Qe7+ Nf7 {[pgndiagram] And White doesn't have any checks,
while the a pawn queens.}) 52... a2 $3 {Here Carlsen resigned, after
convincing himself that his position is hopeless.} 53. Qxa2 Ng4+ 54. Kh3 Qg1 {
[pgndiagram] And there is nothing White can do to prevent mate} 55. Bf3 Nf2+ {
What a spectacular and amazing finish of the game. This is the chess on the
highest level.} 0-1

Po meni je Magnus bio psihološki nespreman da će u ovoj fazi meč biti toliko izjednačen.
Vjerojatno ga je činjenica da nije u vodstvu izbacila iz "comfort zonea" jer je s Anandom uvijek dobio barem jednu partiju u prvoj polovici meča.
Htio je dobiti Karjakina na "mišiće" i preuzeo je daleko veći rizik nego što je bilo potrebno.

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[Event "FIDE World Chess Championship"]
[Site "New York"]
[Date "23.11.2016"]
[Round "9"]
[White "Karjakin, Sergey"]
[Black "Carlsen, Magnus"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "C78"]
[WhiteElo "2772"]
[BlackElo "2853"]
[PlyCount "148"]
[EventType "match"]
[EventCountry "USA"]

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 a6 4. Ba4 Nf6 5. O-O b5 6. Bb3 Bc5 7. a4 Rb8 8. c3
d6 9. d4 Bb6 10. axb5 axb5 11. Na3 O-O 12. Nxb5 Bg4 13. Bc2 exd4 14. Nbxd4 Nxd4
15. cxd4 Bxf3 16. gxf3 Nh5 17. Kh1 Qf6 18. Be3 c5 19. e5 Qe6 20. exd6 c4 21. b3
cxb3 22. Bxb3 Qxd6 23. Ra6 Rfd8 24. Rg1 Qd7 25. Rg4 Nf6 26. Rh4 Qb5 27. Ra1 g6
28. Rb1 Qd7 29. Qd3 Nd5 30. Rg1 Bc7 31. Bg5 Re8 32. Qc4 Rb5 33. Qc2 Ra8 34. Bc4
Rba5 35. Bd2 Ra4 36. Qd3 Ra1 37. Rxa1 Rxa1+ 38. Kg2 Ne7 39. Bxf7+ Kxf7 40. Qc4+
Kg7 41. d5 Nf5 42. Bc3+ Kf8 43. Bxa1 Nxh4+ 44. Qxh4 Qxd5 45. Qf6+ Qf7 46. Qd4
Ke8 47. Qe4+ Qe7 48. Qd5 Bd8 49. Kf1 Qf7 50. Qe4+ Qe7 51. Be5 Qe6 52. Kg2 Be7
53. Qa8+ Kf7 54. Qh8 h5 55. Qg7+ Ke8 56. Bf4 Qf7 57. Qh8+ Qf8 58. Qd4 Qf5 59.
Qc4 Kd7 60. Bd2 Qe6 61. Qa4+ Qc6 62. Qa7+ Qc7 63. Qa2 Qd6 64. Be3 Qe6 65. Qa7+
Ke8 66. Bc5 Bd8 67. h3 Qd5 68. Be3 Be7 69. Qb8+ Kf7 70. Qh8 Qe6 71. Bf4 Qf6 72.
Qb8 Qe6 73. Qb7 Kg8 74. Qb5 Bf6 {1/2-1/2}
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« Odgovor #40 na: 24-11-2016, 18:46:29 »
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Još samo su tri partije ostale do kraja meča,prvak ima dvaput bjele  figure i verovatno če u  njima tražiti mogučnost da porana rezultat.Situacija je za njega  vrlo neobična,po prvi put juri zaostatak,a ne sječam se da li je ikad u devet partija ostao bez ijedne pobjede.Kao da mu nasuprot sjedi Giri (uvjek sa bjelim figurama) Kako se osječa,verovatno zna samo Kasparov koji je u sličnoj situaciji našao u meču protiv Kramnika.
Sergej  devetu partiju  komotno je remizirao,za remi je mnogo više truda uložio prvak.
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« Odgovor #41 na: 24-11-2016, 21:36:47 »
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Želite li partije pratiti preko streaminga Norveške VG TV, prvo instalirajte ModHeader u Google Chrome (ne znam da li isto funkcionira i u Mozilli, informacija koju sam dobio odnosi se na Chrome); zatim pokrenite plavi krug s križićem koji će Vam se instalirati u gornji desni kut Chromea te upišite:

pod Header "Name": X-Forwarded-For
pod Header "Value": 160.68.205.231

te na kraju paste-ajte slijedeći link:

http://direkte.vg.no/studio/sjakk-vm-2016-dag-10

Ovo bi Vas trebalo dovesti na direktan prijenos matcha, uz komentare/analize (a povremeno i zezanciju  Grin) norveških šahovskih komentatora...  good2
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« Odgovor #42 na: 24-11-2016, 23:55:35 »
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« Odgovor #43 na: 25-11-2016, 03:25:15 »
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[Event "FIDE World Chess Championship"]
[Site "New York"]
[Date "24.11.2016"]
[Round "10"]
[White "Carlsen, Magnus"]
[Black "Karjakin, Sergey"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "C65"]
[WhiteElo "2853"]
[BlackElo "2772"]
[PlyCount "149"]
[EventType "match"]
[EventCountry "USA"]

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 Nf6 4. d3 Bc5 5. c3 O-O 6. Bg5 h6 7. Bh4 Be7 8. O-O
d6 9. Nbd2 Nh5 10. Bxe7 Qxe7 11. Nc4 Nf4 12. Ne3 Qf6 13. g3 Nh3+ 14. Kh1 Ne7
15. Bc4 c6 16. Bb3 Ng6 17. Qe2 a5 18. a4 Be6 19. Bxe6 fxe6 20. Nd2 d5 21. Qh5
Ng5 22. h4 Nf3 23. Nxf3 Qxf3+ 24. Qxf3 Rxf3 25. Kg2 Rf7 26. Rfe1 h5 27. Nf1 Kf8
28. Nd2 Ke7 29. Re2 Kd6 30. Nf3 Raf8 31. Ng5 Re7 32. Rae1 Rfe8 33. Nf3 Nh8 34.
d4 exd4 35. Nxd4 g6 36. Re3 Nf7 37. e5+ Kd7 38. Rf3 Nh6 39. Rf6 Rg7 40. b4 axb4
41. cxb4 Ng8 42. Rf3 Nh6 43. a5 Nf5 44. Nb3 Kc7 45. Nc5 Kb8 46. Rb1 Ka7 47. Rd3
Rc7 48. Ra3 Nd4 49. Rd1 Nf5 50. Kh3 Nh6 51. f3 Rf7 52. Rd4 Nf5 53. Rd2 Rh7 54.
Rb3 Ree7 55. Rdd3 Rh8 56. Rb1 Rhh7 57. b5 cxb5 58. Rxb5 d4 59. Rb6 Rc7 60. Nxe6
Rc3 61. Nf4 Rhc7 62. Nd5 Rxd3 63. Nxc7 Kb8 64. Nb5 Kc8 65. Rxg6 Rxf3 66. Kg2
Rb3 67. Nd6+ Nxd6 68. Rxd6 Re3 69. e6 Kc7 70. Rxd4 Rxe6 71. Rd5 Rh6 72. Kf3 Kb8
73. Kf4 Ka7 74. Kg5 Rh8 75. Kf6 {1-0}


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Carlsen, Magnus28531/2.1/2.1/2.1/2.1/2.1/2.1/2.0.1/2.15
Karjakin, Sergej27721/2.1/2.1/2.1/2.1/2.1/2.1/2.1.1/2.05

Petak, 25. studenog, je dan odmora. Nastavak dvoboja za naslov svjetskog prvaka u šahu je u subotu 26. studenog.
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« Odgovor #44 na: 25-11-2016, 08:13:19 »
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Karjakin je pokusa dotuci prvaka, a to tako ne ide, pametnije je bilo u 20 potezu remizirati i svesti ga na samo jos 2 partije "fore", ovako sve ispocetka....
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